Every so often, we need to stir things up. Prevent us from getting complacent, you know? Enter Ritu, an award-winning Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion expert. She and Tom have, shall we say, different opinions on how the world works. But there’s a silver lining to that. We demonstrate today that no matter how polar opposite the mindset, there’s always room for diplomacy and decorum. Also, hate is bad. We’re going to be the first people on earth to go on record as saying we don’t like hate. Brave, I know, but someone had to do it.

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